The guards crack due to the body flexing and vibrating. Waste of money it was so bad. Sure. Ive not had mine leak so far, and hope it stays that way! I have braced bullbar by getting scrub rails incase bullbar causing inner guard cracking. Hi Aaron But the car is so poorly built i wouldnt be surprised if theres a hole in the reservoir somewhere. Firstly, sorry to hear you are having issues. Its the most reasonable explanation though, and Im sure I heard about it from someone who went to Isuzu outside of Australia. Ive seen your comments a few times online; youve built up quite the rig. I think I speak for many to say thanks for making the effort. The wheel bearings also sounds strange; if they are done properly, you should have no issues for a lot longer than every couple of services. Often they snap in the worse possible position on a track. There will be wear and tear on other items as well though, but if its done a lot of long distance driving and less 4WDing it might be limited. All good but smoke just visible, 12 months later manifold blocked again . I own a 2017 dual cab Dmax LS-U 44. whenever you have the extra loads in there. Sorry to hear you are going through that. Unfortunately on our way to the dealer, an hour and a half drive, Tuesday gone, the car completely died and we had to get it towed to the dealer. Each vehicle is set up differently, with different weights in different areas. Hi Aaron I have a 2015 dmax diesel ute has being a great ute no problems at all but 2 weeks ago it decided to blow the coolant out the header tank a long story short it had never being hot and didnt get hot until it let go temp got to 3/4 on gauge, head gasket blown put in 2 spots between cylinders head cracked as well 190,000 on clock only ran in must be a fault there somewhere for that to happen never being hot and no leaks. What are your thoughts on the 2016 Dmax MY15.5 extra cab for towing 2500kg caravan? Also, Im told that there was a mishap in the manufacturing facility where high tensile steel was stamped incorrectly for the guard panels, and used anyway. if there is any play, look to see where its coming from and replace the part. From what Ive heard, you are not alone in your beliefs. Aaron, They were welded back up under insurance as they thought it might have to do with an accident in 2018. Theyve certainly proven themselves to be reliable. Ive had numerous problems with mine so got rid of it. Like you, I compared Isuzu from a grounding of Toyota engineering. Might as well buy a 1984 Lada Niva. Not what you expect from a new Ute. Which of your shortcomings above do you think this would resolve? It should be under $100 on its own. More reliable than Toyota is most certainly an interesting opinion, of which a majority of those in the know would disagree with. A rear diff lock makes a big difference in these, and I suspect we will end up with one down the track. My ute is still under warranty. Fingers crossed!! Hi Arron great article. Very interesting articles, Ive just about sold my Nissan y62, and was keen to buy a Isuzu MY15, July onwards, but on reading the brassed of owners, 2nd choice was 2014 hilux, but really Im just about gone full circle, GQ1988swb, non turbo, good old plugger and even spend $10,000 total recon motor, seems ok One more thing i am looking to do is put a LSD in it. To be fair, there are more on the road too, so its somewhat expected. Great article on the Isuzu. Head Office has been good and opened a case for me and contacted the dealer. They arent perfect, but we are actually happy with ours overall. Absolute garbage, unless you managed to get a good one. Great turning circle for a ute. Cheers David. I would imagine most of the problems I listed will have been rectified. A lot of people fit older model diffs with the same ratio, but they have an LSD and technically make your vehicle illegal. Gavin. I tow a boat and sometimes a caravan. Isuzu are certainly not perfect, but their 4JJ1 motor is well known to be one of the best common rail diesels out there. Second issue was manual gearbox, they looked at it, told me nothing wrong while well under warranty and then of course a few months out of warranty wouldnt look at it. First idea was fit locker, eliminate problem. Then after numerous returns to dealer with concerns head still leaking (using half bottle of coolant/800km) it was finally identified that the EGR cooler had a leak, again fixed under warranty. So, now going for 2nd hand centre and if no issues will do the locker at a later date. No car, no loan car, and I had to go direct to Isuzu to get it approved. Cheers for the comment. I had mine get stuck in park when I blew a fuse, but there were check engine lights too, Great review and truthful comments. Sounds like youve had a bit of a rough run to start with. Either way it is still annoying and expensive. Parts were ordered, shipped and arrived very fast. Only Holdens incompetence with common rail diesel injection destroyed an otherwise perfect vehicle. Not good. That said, I dont think its fair to compare a 2WD vehicle to a 4WD one, especially considering the differences in the way they are used. The 2021 Isuzu D-MAX has arrived, and Fulcrum are getting ready to offer it some serious upgrades to ensure your 4WD has the ultimate ride! Instead of coming back to us with answers they are saying we have voided warranty. & have a 2009 Prado (since 2012) and a light non-offroad caravan ( tare 1450 kg, fully loaded 1800 kg) since 2018. All that said, I now have 227,000km on the clock, original brakes and shoes and, believe it or not, original wiper blades (lol), although they coming close to wanting to be replaced. Interesting! Not good enough Isuzu; absolutely no leg to stand on in your defence. DIY LIFT KIT INSTALL SECRETS! If you want to know how much the total build cost, you can read about it here Dmax build cost. Theres no perfect vehicle out there, and plenty of other rigs have a lot more, worse issues. Keep a keen eye on it, and I hope it works out well. uses no oil blow no smoke. Hopefully its al sorted now, and you get to enjoy a few years of trouble free motoring! Excellent choice. Permalink. When the first model comes out, they often update it and correct issues in the next version. I think the replacements on mine were about $800 including labour, and they covered it, as they should on yours as well. Driving with a cross wind is a constant battle against steering feedback. Engine/gearbox point of view. Ill weigh it all up again when that time comes. Linds. I would think the leaky head unit would be the culprit. Towing capacity; a simple guide to keep you legal, 42 tips for 4WDing; the ultimate how to drive a 4WD guide, 20 things you should never do in a 4WD recovery. Is the vehicle still drivable? Over the previous 20 years I have had 3 x Jackaroos (the last being a Diesel). Perhaps you wont need one, which solves your issue altogether. At the time of purchase, Id heard of a couple of turbos going on the newer model with the DPF, and since then I have heard of a huge number. Apart from that ive had a good run so far, only 41,000kms. 3 have done in excess of 400K km all down to the driver as a driver, & not a wrecker. Still terrible you have to do that though. I have been around Australian, across the simpson, through the high country ans up the cape with mates from the 44 club and it has not missed a beat. THE DMAX 4WD BUILD UP. I wanted more power and it certainly delivers. That sucks mate. Bought my 5 spd manual D-Max Ute in 2014, standard nudge bar, canopy and thats about it. Have you been towing a trailer by any chance? A number of Dmaxs and MUXs (Ive seen about 200 online) end up with the inner guard cracking, above the front wheels. New car ownership shouldnt suffer the issues you have; not much fun! I overheard an employee at the Isuzu dealer mention to one of their colleagues that they had heard it happen to (x) family twice. Lovells GVM GCM upgrade. Seems they havent moved on much since. Rear main seal was replaced under warranty no other problems to date . I will mention that the new shape (2020 onwards) Dmax and MUX have had a major upgrade in the frills and fancy department, which is great to see. I have always been interested in the dmax as I am not brand loyal either, so have seriously considered buying one. At this stage Im having it done at Isuzu Pakenham. I did some further research, and even read a publication from ARB suggesting they don't recommend a lift of any more than 25mm due to increased CV angles. These are being replaced under warranty, but it takes time and means you are without a car for a while, and some people are on their third or fourth turbos! One thing I have noticed since I got it was regular DPD regens so I started to make a list of the mileage at each one and discovered that happened as often as 140ks and as long as 420ks with an average of 265 ks. No major tyre wear issues. 2022 Dmax 3" suspension lift - YouTube 0:00 / 15:46 2022 Dmax 3" suspension lift PROCHECK Automotive Mechanical & Dyno Tuning 2.8K subscribers Subscribe 8.2K views 9 months ago PROCHECK. I did read from an Isuzu technician that it is caused by soft body mounts that wear out and are not replaced often enough, and have seen a number of them cracking at the front, so keep an eye on it. They won't affect normal working then. I appreciate your response. Having spoken with a few gearbox guys of late the problem is now quite well known. Instead, it comes with traction control only (which most vehicles also come with). Sold after 30,000km. (around $125) Bolt them in set on just a slight load bearing. It doesnt sound good at all. 2nd battery behind driver in cab. 200watt solar panel up on cab roof. When I pointed out that the dealer had fitted it under finance they backtracked and blamed it on the Pedders GVM upgrade. I wouldnt say its pathetic, especially seeing as a huge number of people have no issues with them. I have an SX spacecab 2013. One point you touched on repeatedly in your analysis many drivers have this thing about indestructabity, coupled with urgency and the need to drive fast & hard. Great economy, does what you need it to and no issues! 116k on the clock. So let's go through why I feel this is an absolute quality bit of kit. Ive towed a A-Van Aspire 499 (H/T), and while it is a light-weight unit, I always new it was on the back of the car, however I was never in a hurry to get to where I was going. You can get an LSD. I feel like that is the source (and hope). This last one they slightly over filled onto the yellow so when I took it back it was down to the full dot and they said it hadnt used and is fine then wanted to close the case until I said no and did another 3000km and its dropped 5mm from the dot. I believe their has been a firmware update for the safety side of things on the BT50/Dmax which makes it react a little less harshly, and Ive heard good things about it so far. Dmax lift kit problems are always going to be accentuated because of this, and you need to be careful going too high. Youve probably already realised that everything has its drawbacks, and you have to make a compromise somewhere. Keep us updated with the dash cam footage, and how Isuzu react. I literally would have had to lift the paint, make the mark and then respray. Ford dont offer a cooler and the dealer wont fit an after market one. I have heard of others towing things having to replace the clutches too. Were going on the big lap. The front end is pathetic If your going to make a statement like that back it up with facts not BS. Touch wood ours has only had one alignment, and that wasnt because it needed it. Sometimes this is easy to do, but if you havent changed anything significant (especially motor/wiring/chip/OBD scanner related) I cant see how they can argue it. Lots to think about, but take your time, drive the vehicles you are keen on and make the best decisions you can with what you pick up. Theres no doubt that the D-max lacks in the fancy bits department. I have read of a surprising number of Dmaxs with rear differentials that have failed before 80,000km. If you can prove the paint wasnt done right from the factory they should have no leg to stand on. Date: 12:51 PM Oct 25, 2016. I keep GVM 400kg down from maximum of 3600kg. Emergency brakes are applied prematurely. So, I noticed at 115,000km the cracks are back. Those that are made a point of are not major (like Ford Ranger engine failures, for example, which are posted on the Facebook page just about every week!). They generally have a decent reputation, but stranger things have happened. Stop vehicle, start again stuck in second gear These motors are supposed to do 500,000km without any issues according to their sales spiel. I hope Isuzu will stand by their claim that they are the best farm Utes around, which is why we decided on purchasing it over others models. I live with most of the issues (although i will sell it), they bother me but i live with it, so this is just my honest opinion of the car/driving experience i have. Hi Aaron, I noticed that you have an Amaron battery under the bonnet. Ive got a 2017 duel cab 44 Dmax. I would get a locker instead of the LSD. to me, its a solid and well build truck. They also indicted they knew what the problem was which is what really annoys me. Yep, were happy with Amaron. As I paw over it now checking, tightening, etc, I compare it to a stable of Subarus we have had in the last 10 years. That said, Ive also seen it on Dmaxs and MUXs that have no bull bar, or even the factory aluminium or steel bull bar. Was told by one dealer the car would need a Diff drop plus ball joint spacer to adjust the change in angle angles. Its just bad timing! You might already know that cars and vans are super expensive and have long lead times right now. The fuel consumption is 10/100 klm on a 1000 klm trip where my old one got 7.7/100 and when I complained they said it wasnt run in , my old one got 7.7 at 5000klm so thats bs and they were unable to replicate the electronic sensor problems so I have installed a dash cam to record the actions as this feature has the potential to cause a major accident with the vehicle doing unexpected things. I was told that the robot applying the sealant to the seal was missing a small portion of the seal for a huge number of vehicles. Thanks for the update. I could have paid the same price for a brand new one, but opted for the last of the pre DPF models. Maybe 2023 I will have it back (on the upside, I have learnt that public transport isnt as bad as I thought). It works OK, but isnt as good as some other variants on the market. Do these need to be replaced under warranty or is it ok to replace them yourself. Cheers, Emma. The solution is stainless steel tie road sleaves from RR Products. The alternative is a torqueworm drive, which some people are doing. set of nolathane cab mounts fixed this. Ive heard of the compressors failing, but the alternator and crank battery says something isnt right with your battery setup. Sorry to hear of your experience. The reasoning was simple; a DPF (or DPD as Isuzu calls them) is just another thing to go wrong, and I know Isuzu have issues with them in their trucks (despite being one of the better DPFs on the market today). Catchcan from Flashlube. Recently purchased a Cx space cab trading in a 2016 model, the new vehicle is causing major problems related to the sensors breaking at shadows on the road travelling at speed o the highway. Interesting about the Alphatech piggyback; Id heard of them before and might give our Dmax a tickle at some stage in the future. Might be worth considering a second hand motor too. Our 2016 Dmax has been used all over Australia. I test drove a manual with my heart set on buying one but the lag was even worse. Catch can also approx 250ml Id recommend going back to Toyota. I change the auto oil ever 30 to 40k and had a cooler fitted. I dont know much about the 1.9L engine unfortunately, and it really depends on what you want to do with the vehicle. It is the most poorly built car i have ever owned. It is absolutely useless. The hands free is the same model, and it was one of the most common complains earlier on across all models. Interesting about the nolathane body mounts; have you had any issues with body cracking? This is caused by poor body rubbers, especially the front ones. I bought mine mid 2016. How much do you really know about 4WD insurance? 3. Dirty fuel had to take fuel tank out and flush it out thought about another filter. The Isuzu Dmax is one of the few 4WDs on the market that doesnt come with a diff lock, or an LSD as a factory fitted install. Its not that I dont like them, I just prefer Range Rovers. Usually failure is from being unlucky, pushing the limits of the vehicle or poor driving practices. It might not be for you. Every bloke I know who had a D max hated it and said the same thing. Are you familiar with this issue as my local mechanic has the same issue with their RACV call out vehicle. Maybe. Sorry to hear. Stephen. I have a 2019 Isuzu Dmax Auto SX model. Our aircon just failed the other day too, so Ill add that to the list! Ive been a Toyota fan for a long time. Turbo has gone Our Research and Development team extensively examined the vehicle and took note of the comparisons between the old D-MAX and the '21 D-MAX. Regards Tim from Tassie. it can cause alignment issues if abused hard It can happen during an 8hr drive or 2min into a school pick up run and doing any speed. The ACC has some great information about warranties that is worth a read. Would i buy another one yes, would i look at anything else yes but it would need tobe really good if i decided to change. Aaron, Is anyone having issue with oil consumption? Only you can answer that! The dash has a loud audible clicking noise coming from inside on the passenger side when in drive with the foot on the brake and the air conditioner switch wont stay on unless continually pressed in. Touch wood, no issues for me in that regard so far. Have a 2008 Rodeo space cab, manual, 270,000 klms. Doesnt know why running rich, any ideas please, john, It shouldnt block that quickly. Given the Dmax's don't have the best reputation for strong CV's anyway, it was asking for trouble. The turbo has been replaced and the air conditioner piping replaced under warranty. Front Bumpers Hidden Winch Mounts Nudge Bars Rear Bumpers Side Protection Underbody Protection Winch Bumpers Canopies and Covers Tonneau Covers Truckman Hard Tops Exterior Styling Grilles Other Styling Wheel Arches Wheel Spacers Exterior Upgrades Camera Systems Tailgate Assist Towing Mirrors Snorkels and Breathers Diff Breathers Snorkel Kits I have no issues with the safety systems, they are annoying and id rather do without but once you adjust your driving style a little bit you get used to them. We purchased with intentions off travel due to work commitments we have not done much. Purchased new. Electric windows are about as fancy as this one gets! It is capable of holding over 650 HP and 650 lb-ft of torque in the Camaro so you can rest assured that this transmission can hold the power that you want to put down with your new Duramax. Camping Kettle Upgrade; no more burnt toes! I do love my MUX and its bells and whistles but gee I hope thats all that is going to go wrong this early in the piece! Everything was fine with the vehicle until Saturday gone when the same thing started happening as Kim Goldfinch mentioned in their comment September 30, 2021. We are looking for a very small no frills hard top caravan (not interested in shower, washing machine, microwave). The air con compressor packed up at about 200k. Factory internal wiring is horribly put together, bonnets wobbles because the metal is so thin, i can visibly see the cab move and stretch where the doors mount to the cab, i would not be surprised if the door rips out of the frame one day, fancy looking l.e.d lights arent that crash hot, i periodically smell oil fumes in the cabin even when the A/C is on recirculate. Unreliable. Ive heard some sketchy things about these safety features, and people are using blacked out business cards to stop the sensors from working to overcome it. I would tell them they can keep the vehicle for as long as they need, providing they give you a loan car. (Kryptonite No Fine Print Lifetime Warranty)-Kryptonite steering and suspension components are warrantied for life to their original purchaser. I might suggest that your comment doesnt have any facts in it either, so perhaps you should take your own advice? I have heard of a significant number of these being done. i have the same 16 model as i didnt want dpf either, the only problem i have had was a weeping transfer case seal fixed under warranty twice. All the best, Don. But without a doubt my favorite thing about the car is Im fairly confident the first 3 seals that were installed were not done properly (pushed too far in). Dobinsons 1.5"-3.5" Suspension lift kit Twin Tube Shocks and rear Quick Ride Kit for 2012 and Up Isuzu DMax & Chevy Colorado. No charge of course and no problems since. We are getting on a bit mid 60s, so we need to get this decision right first time ( well as much as we can) so we are looking for advice on how to achieve our goal. I agree with the drive train sympathy. In my opinion they sound desperate to get rid of us. Isuzu make a solid, simple, and low-frills 4WD as you point out and we bought them for truck reliability. It does sit on 110-120km/hr very nicely though. I specifically bought the older version Dmax. Good to hear you had a great run from the Rodeo. awesome reliable vehicle. It is nearly impossible to follow the 808 page manual. Canopy 150mm higher than standard as we sleep in canopy. A lot of people dont do this. All that said, I take on board the comments re the inner guard issue as this is not the first report of the issue that I have heard, and I will ensure this is inspected at the 230k service. The 2012 2020 Isuzu Dmaxs have a very bad habit of cracking the evaporator at the end of a rigid pipe that goes through your firewall, which releases the cooling gas, and results in you needing to have the entire dash removed, and the evaporator replaced. Alloy Isuzu tray(Triple M) canvas canopy in sail track with engineered load bearing alloy roof and rails. Hi, EDIT this has stopped leaking, is still full and will be monitored. 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